{"id":28024,"date":"2016-06-04T14:19:41","date_gmt":"2016-06-04T18:19:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28024"},"modified":"2016-06-04T14:19:41","modified_gmt":"2016-06-04T18:19:41","slug":"the-god-problem-dives-into-a-nyc-public-swimming-pool","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28024","title":{"rendered":"The god problem dives into a NYC public swimming pool"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>A parks department accommodation to Orthodox Jews violates the rights of others who just want to cool off.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Source: <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2016\/06\/01\/opinion\/everybody-into-the-pool.html\">Everybody Into the Pool &#8211; The New York Times<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>An excerpt:<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" style=\"padding-left: 60px;\" data-para-count=\"252\" data-total-count=\"979\"><em>Sex-segregated hours have been the rule at the pool since \u201csometime during the 90s,\u201d according to a spokesman for the parks department. The policy was instituted at the request of Orthodox women, apparently without any serious community objections.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" style=\"padding-left: 60px;\" data-para-count=\"312\" data-total-count=\"1291\"><em>But a recent anonymous complaint led the city\u2019s Commission on Human Rights to notify the parks department that the policy violated the law. Then a new pool schedule was issued, with the women\u2019s hours removed. That alarmed female swimmers, who alerted politicians, including the local assemblyman, Dov Hikind.<\/em><\/p>\n<p id=\"story-continues-1\" class=\"story-body-text story-content\" style=\"padding-left: 60px;\" data-para-count=\"198\" data-total-count=\"1489\"><em>The change was swiftly undone. The department now says it is working with the commission to come up with a solution that is acceptable \u2014 and legal \u2014 but for now, the women\u2019s hours will remain.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" style=\"padding-left: 60px;\" data-para-count=\"352\" data-total-count=\"1841\"><em>Which is unfortunate. The city\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nyc.gov\/html\/cchr\/html\/law\/nyc-human-rights-ch1.shtml#2\">human rights law<\/a> is quite clear that public accommodations like a swimming pool cannot exclude people based on sex. It allows for exemptions \u201cbased on bona fide considerations of public policy,\u201d but this case \u2014 with its strong odor of religious intrusion into a secular space \u2014 does not seem bona fide at all.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Right. Back to the eternal problem of fundamentalist religion&#8211;in this case Judaism&#8211;unconstitutionally thrusting itself into and taking over segments of our public lives.<\/p>\n<p>If Orthodox Jews don&#8217;t permit their women (<a href=\"http:\/\/wp.me\/p13yRc-2jn\">and hey Orthodox women: not for the first time do I tell you to get out of that suppressive cult<\/a>) to share swimming pools with the rest of us multigender hoi polloi, let them build their own damn pools and stay out of ours\u00a0 instead of violating the First Amendment&#8217;s separation clause.<\/p>\n<p>They could expand <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Mikveh\">the mikvahs<\/a>, right?<a href=\"http:\/\/fifthavenuemikvah.com\/\"> Indeed, some of these mikvahs look very much like private swimming pools.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Another idea: I presume Muslim women also can&#8217;t swim in public pools with other genders. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.quora.com\/What-outfit-should-Muslim-women-wear-to-swim-in-a-regular-swimming-pool\">A google search tells me that they can&#8211;maybe&#8211;but must cover their bodies<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not linking you to the strict (male) Islamic site I found answering this question because I do not want to get onto an intelligence watch list (or Trump campaign solicitation list).<\/p>\n<p>And that site is so insanely offensive to me, a contemporary godless woman, I wouldn&#8217;t inflict it on any of you. You can thank me privately for my exquisite consideration of your mental health.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a bright idea: fundamentalist Islam and Judaism join together to build their own private fundamentalist pools exclusively for women? Love to see that.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A parks department accommodation to Orthodox Jews violates the rights of others who just want to cool off. 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