{"id":28761,"date":"2016-08-06T13:54:22","date_gmt":"2016-08-06T17:54:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761"},"modified":"2016-08-12T14:34:56","modified_gmt":"2016-08-12T18:34:56","slug":"women-lawyers-pay-equity-and-open-harassment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761","title":{"rendered":"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Suing is a potent way for women to get equal pay for equal work&#8211;see the <a href=\"http:\/\/wp.me\/p13yRc-1BQ\">Lilly Ledbetter case.\u00a0 So <\/a>it&#8217;s pretty distressing to read that women <em>lawyers<\/em>, numbers of whom are fighting this problem for clients in court&#8211;suffer under the same inequitable system.<\/p>\n<p>Ugh. From Law.com:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>As more women lawyers use litigation to fight unequal pay it begs the question of whether effective methods exist for pursuing equality internally before going to the courts. But women lawyers familiar with gender disparity issues said many attorneys face backlash when they complain about compensation or do nothing in fear of those consequences.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And yesterday, there was this, in the Times:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>An effort to bar sexist or discriminatory comments by lawyers addressing each other has been criticized for inhibiting the ability to speak freely.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Source: <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2016\/08\/05\/business\/dealbook\/sexual-harassment-ban-is-on-the-abas-docket.html\">Bar Association Considers Striking \u2018Honeys\u2019 From the Courtroom &#8211; The New York Times<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m throwing in below how the story begins because it makes me grate my teeth and I feel if I&#8217;m grating my teeth, you&#8217;ll want to grate yours. You know, kind of comradeship?<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\" data-para-count=\"191\" data-total-count=\"191\"><em>When Lori Rifkin asked the opposing lawyer to stop interrupting her while she questioned a potential witness, he replied: \u201cDon\u2019t raise your voice at me. It\u2019s not becoming of a woman.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\" data-para-count=\"221\" data-total-count=\"412\"><em>The remark drew a rebuke and fine in January from a federal magistrate who declared that the lawyer had \u201cendorsed the stereotype that women are subject to a different standard of behavior than their fellow attorneys.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\" data-para-count=\"209\" data-total-count=\"621\"><em>\u201cA sexist remark,\u201d said the judge, Paul S. Grewal of the Federal District Court in San Jose, Calif., \u201cis not just a professional discourtesy, although that in itself is regrettable and all too common.\u201d<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\" data-para-count=\"289\" data-total-count=\"910\"><em>Many female lawyers would agree. They say that even as more women graduate from law school and represent clients in courtrooms, it is not rare for them to be addressed as \u201choney\u201d or \u201cdarling.\u201d Sometimes they are subject to a grating remark, or an arm around the shoulder, they say.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"289\" data-total-count=\"910\">Ugh to the second power.<\/p>\n<p class=\"story-body-text story-content\" data-para-count=\"289\" data-total-count=\"910\"><strong>UPDATE 8\/12\/2016<\/strong>. Rah to the second power! They did it:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The American Bar Association revised its ethics rule to forbid lawyers from using demeaning or misogynistic terms or actions.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Source: <em><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2016\/08\/10\/business\/dealbook\/aba-prohibits-sexual-harassment-joining-many-state-bars.html\">Goodbye to \u2018Honeys\u2019 in Court, by Vote of American Bar Association &#8211; The New York Times<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>P.S. Am I being judgmental when I point up that the president of the American Bar Association is a woman? An African-American woman?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Suing is a potent way for women to get equal pay for equal work&#8211;see the Lilly Ledbetter case.\u00a0 So it&#8217;s pretty distressing to read that women lawyers, numbers of whom are fighting this problem for clients in court&#8211;suffer under the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[337,1055],"tags":[60,692,1104],"class_list":["post-28761","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-legal-news","category-american-war-on-women","tag-employment-lawsuits","tag-equal-pay-lawsuits","tag-women-lawyers-harassment"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.10 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Suing is a potent way for women to get equal pay for equal work--see the Lilly Ledbetter case. So it&#039;s pretty distressing to read that women lawyers, numbers of whom are fighting this problem for clients in court--suffer under the same inequitable system. Ugh. From Law.com: As more women lawyers use litigation to fight unequal\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"max-image-preview:large\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"author\" content=\"Naomi\"\/>\n\t<meta name=\"keywords\" content=\"employment lawsuit,aba,american bar association bans \\&#039;honey\\&#039;,equal pay lawsuits,women lawyers,women lawyers harassed in court,lori rifkin,,employment lawsuits,women lawyers harassment\" \/>\n\t<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761\" \/>\n\t<meta name=\"generator\" content=\"All in One SEO (AIOSEO) 4.9.10\" \/>\n\t\t<script type=\"application\/ld+json\" class=\"aioseo-schema\">\n\t\t\t{\"@context\":\"https:\\\/\\\/schema.org\",\"@graph\":[{\"@type\":\"Article\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?p=28761#article\",\"name\":\"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment | Sidebar for Plaintiffs\",\"headline\":\"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment\",\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?author=1#author\"},\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/#organization\"},\"datePublished\":\"2016-08-06T13:54:22-04:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2016-08-12T14:34:56-04:00\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"mainEntityOfPage\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?p=28761#webpage\"},\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?p=28761#webpage\"},\"articleSection\":\"Law, suits and order, War on women, employment lawsuits, equal pay lawsuits, women lawyers harassment\"},{\"@type\":\"BreadcrumbList\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?p=28761#breadcrumblist\",\"itemListElement\":[{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net#listItem\",\"position\":1,\"name\":\"Home\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\",\"nextItem\":{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?cat=337#listItem\",\"name\":\"Law, suits and order\"}},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?cat=337#listItem\",\"position\":2,\"name\":\"Law, suits and order\",\"item\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?cat=337\",\"nextItem\":{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?p=28761#listItem\",\"name\":\"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment\"},\"previousItem\":{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net#listItem\",\"name\":\"Home\"}},{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?p=28761#listItem\",\"position\":3,\"name\":\"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment\",\"previousItem\":{\"@type\":\"ListItem\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?cat=337#listItem\",\"name\":\"Law, suits and order\"}}]},{\"@type\":\"Organization\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/#organization\",\"name\":\"Sidebar for Plaintiffs\",\"description\":\"Whatever I think whenever I think it\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/\"},{\"@type\":\"Person\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?author=1#author\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?author=1\",\"name\":\"Naomi\"},{\"@type\":\"WebPage\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?p=28761#webpage\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?p=28761\",\"name\":\"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment | Sidebar for Plaintiffs\",\"description\":\"Suing is a potent way for women to get equal pay for equal work--see the Lilly Ledbetter case. So it's pretty distressing to read that women lawyers, numbers of whom are fighting this problem for clients in court--suffer under the same inequitable system. Ugh. From Law.com: As more women lawyers use litigation to fight unequal\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"isPartOf\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/#website\"},\"breadcrumb\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?p=28761#breadcrumblist\"},\"author\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?author=1#author\"},\"creator\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/?author=1#author\"},\"datePublished\":\"2016-08-06T13:54:22-04:00\",\"dateModified\":\"2016-08-12T14:34:56-04:00\"},{\"@type\":\"WebSite\",\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/#website\",\"url\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/\",\"name\":\"Sidebar for Plaintiffs\",\"description\":\"Whatever I think whenever I think it\",\"inLanguage\":\"en-US\",\"publisher\":{\"@id\":\"https:\\\/\\\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\\\/#organization\"}}]}\n\t\t<\/script>\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO -->\n\n","aioseo_head_json":{"title":"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment | Sidebar for Plaintiffs","description":"Suing is a potent way for women to get equal pay for equal work--see the Lilly Ledbetter case. So it's pretty distressing to read that women lawyers, numbers of whom are fighting this problem for clients in court--suffer under the same inequitable system. Ugh. From Law.com: As more women lawyers use litigation to fight unequal","canonical_url":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761","robots":"max-image-preview:large","keywords":"employment lawsuit,aba,american bar association bans \\'honey\\',equal pay lawsuits,women lawyers,women lawyers harassed in court,lori rifkin,,employment lawsuits,women lawyers harassment","webmasterTools":{"miscellaneous":""},"schema":{"@context":"https:\/\/schema.org","@graph":[{"@type":"Article","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761#article","name":"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment | Sidebar for Plaintiffs","headline":"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment","author":{"@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?author=1#author"},"publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/#organization"},"datePublished":"2016-08-06T13:54:22-04:00","dateModified":"2016-08-12T14:34:56-04:00","inLanguage":"en-US","mainEntityOfPage":{"@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761#webpage"},"isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761#webpage"},"articleSection":"Law, suits and order, War on women, employment lawsuits, equal pay lawsuits, women lawyers harassment"},{"@type":"BreadcrumbList","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761#breadcrumblist","itemListElement":[{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net#listItem","position":1,"name":"Home","item":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net","nextItem":{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?cat=337#listItem","name":"Law, suits and order"}},{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?cat=337#listItem","position":2,"name":"Law, suits and order","item":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?cat=337","nextItem":{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761#listItem","name":"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment"},"previousItem":{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net#listItem","name":"Home"}},{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761#listItem","position":3,"name":"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment","previousItem":{"@type":"ListItem","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?cat=337#listItem","name":"Law, suits and order"}}]},{"@type":"Organization","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/#organization","name":"Sidebar for Plaintiffs","description":"Whatever I think whenever I think it","url":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/"},{"@type":"Person","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?author=1#author","url":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?author=1","name":"Naomi"},{"@type":"WebPage","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761#webpage","url":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761","name":"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment | Sidebar for Plaintiffs","description":"Suing is a potent way for women to get equal pay for equal work--see the Lilly Ledbetter case. So it's pretty distressing to read that women lawyers, numbers of whom are fighting this problem for clients in court--suffer under the same inequitable system. Ugh. From Law.com: As more women lawyers use litigation to fight unequal","inLanguage":"en-US","isPartOf":{"@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/#website"},"breadcrumb":{"@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761#breadcrumblist"},"author":{"@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?author=1#author"},"creator":{"@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?author=1#author"},"datePublished":"2016-08-06T13:54:22-04:00","dateModified":"2016-08-12T14:34:56-04:00"},{"@type":"WebSite","@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/#website","url":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/","name":"Sidebar for Plaintiffs","description":"Whatever I think whenever I think it","inLanguage":"en-US","publisher":{"@id":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/#organization"}}]}},"aioseo_meta_data":{"post_id":"28761","title":null,"description":null,"keywords":[{"label":"employment lawsuit","value":"employment lawsuit"},{"label":"ABA","value":"ABA"},{"label":"American Bar Association bans 'honey'","value":"American Bar Association bans 'honey'"},{"label":"equal pay lawsuits","value":"equal pay lawsuits"},{"label":"women lawyers","value":"women lawyers"},{"label":"women lawyers harassed in court","value":"women lawyers harassed in court"},{"label":"Lori Rifkin","value":"Lori Rifkin"},{"label":"","value":""}],"keyphrases":null,"primary_term":null,"canonical_url":null,"og_title":null,"og_description":null,"og_object_type":"default","og_image_type":"default","og_image_url":null,"og_image_width":null,"og_image_height":null,"og_image_custom_url":null,"og_image_custom_fields":null,"og_video":null,"og_custom_url":null,"og_article_section":null,"og_article_tags":null,"twitter_use_og":false,"twitter_card":"default","twitter_image_type":"default","twitter_image_url":null,"twitter_image_custom_url":null,"twitter_image_custom_fields":null,"twitter_title":null,"twitter_description":null,"schema":{"blockGraphs":[],"customGraphs":[],"default":{"data":{"Article":[],"Course":[],"Dataset":[],"FAQPage":[],"Movie":[],"Person":[],"Product":[],"ProductReview":[],"Car":[],"Recipe":[],"Service":[],"SoftwareApplication":[],"WebPage":[]},"graphName":"","isEnabled":true},"graphs":[],"defaultGraph":"","defaultPostTypeGraph":""},"schema_type":null,"schema_type_options":null,"pillar_content":false,"robots_default":true,"robots_noindex":false,"robots_noarchive":false,"robots_nosnippet":false,"robots_nofollow":false,"robots_noimageindex":false,"robots_noodp":false,"robots_notranslate":false,"robots_max_snippet":null,"robots_max_videopreview":null,"robots_max_imagepreview":"large","priority":null,"frequency":null,"local_seo":null,"breadcrumb_settings":null,"limit_modified_date":false,"ai":null,"created":"2020-12-21 20:18:46","updated":"2022-09-21 13:59:21","seo_analyzer_scan_date":null},"aioseo_breadcrumb":"<div class=\"aioseo-breadcrumbs\"><span class=\"aioseo-breadcrumb\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\" title=\"Home\">Home<\/a>\n\t\t<\/span><span class=\"aioseo-breadcrumb-separator\">&raquo;<\/span><span class=\"aioseo-breadcrumb\">\n\t\t\t<a href=\"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?cat=337\" title=\"Law, suits and order\">Law, suits and order<\/a>\n\t\t<\/span><span class=\"aioseo-breadcrumb-separator\">&raquo;<\/span><span class=\"aioseo-breadcrumb\">\n\t\t\tWomen lawyers, pay equity and open harassment\n\t\t<\/span><\/div>","aioseo_breadcrumb_json":[{"label":"Home","link":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net"},{"label":"Law, suits and order","link":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?cat=337"},{"label":"Women lawyers, pay equity and open harassment","link":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=28761"}],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28761","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=28761"}],"version-history":[{"count":21,"href":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28761\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":28903,"href":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/28761\/revisions\/28903"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=28761"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=28761"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=28761"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}