{"id":35809,"date":"2017-11-03T12:25:55","date_gmt":"2017-11-03T16:25:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=35809"},"modified":"2017-11-03T16:55:48","modified_gmt":"2017-11-03T20:55:48","slug":"can-we-please-stop-talking-about-collusion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=35809","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;Can We Please Stop Talking About \u2018Collusion\u2019?&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Source: <em><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2017\/11\/02\/opinion\/collusion-meaning-trump-.html?action=click&amp;pgtype=Homepage&amp;clickSource=story-heading&amp;module=opinion-c-col-right-region&amp;region=opinion-c-col-right-region&amp;WT.nav=opinion-c-col-right-region&amp;_r=0\">Can We Please Stop Talking About \u2018Collusion\u2019? &#8211; The New York Times<br \/>\n<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n<p>Uh, no.<\/p>\n<p>In an odd opinion piece, Ryan Goodman, a professor of law at NYU, tried to make some legal points about the word &#8220;collusion.&#8221; (Note that the interesting essay by Renato Mariotti, from which Mr. Goodman quotes, is published in the blog <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justsecurity.org\/about-us\/\">Just Security<\/a>, for which Mr. Goodman is editor-in-chief. Just Security seems to have some philosophical relationship to the blog Lawfare, edited by my cousin, Ben Wittes.)<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Mr. Trump and his inner circle have benefited enormously from this coalescing around the word \u201ccollusion\u201d \u2014 a term with a legalistic feel but with close to \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.justsecurity.org\/45169\/federal-prosecutor-dissects-trump-lawyer-michael-cohens-statement-senate\/\">no legal meaning whatsoever<\/a>\u201d said Renato Mariotti, a former federal prosecutor and now a defense lawyer&#8230;<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>What might the term \u201ccollusion\u201d actually mean? Mr. Mariotti and I may disagree on a small technicality; it does have some legal meaning. It is found in one place in the federal code, in the area of <a href=\"https:\/\/www.justice.gov\/atr\/price-fixing-bid-rigging-and-market-allocation-schemes\">antitrust law<\/a>, concerning practices such as price-fixing. But that\u2019s no help. To transpose the antitrust framework onto issues of election interference would require metaphor gymnastics.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Well, here I am, not a lawyer, reading the Times op-eds while drinking my morning coffee and I&#8217;m unwilling and unable to send my brain into any sort of gymnastics, metaphoric or not.<\/p>\n<p>So, pretty bewildered by the statement that there&#8217;s &#8220;no legal meaning whatsoever&#8221; to the term collusion, I reached my right arm out to my bookshelf and pulled out my Black&#8217;s Law Dictionary, Pocket Edition. My mental gymnastics did stretch to thinking, gee, if Black&#8217;s <em>Pocket Edition <\/em>had a legal definition of collusion, then maybe Messrs. Goodman and Mariotti (always an intelligent and eloquent guest expert on MSNBC) were not quite&#8230;right?<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>collusion<\/strong> (k[upsidedown &#8220;e&#8221;]l<strong>oo<\/strong>-zh[another upsidedown &#8220;e&#8221;]n), <em>n.<\/em> An agreement to defraud another or to do or obtain something forbidden by law. &#8212;<strong> collude<\/strong>, <em>vb<\/em>. &#8212; <strong>collusive<\/strong>, <em>adj<\/em>. &#8212; colluder, <em>n.<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>collusive action<\/strong>. See ACTION.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><strong>collusive joinder<\/strong>. See JOINDER<\/p>\n<p>&#8211;Black&#8217;s Law Dictionary, Third Pocket Edition, Bryan A. Garner, Editor in Chief<\/p>\n<p>Oh, you can go look up ACTION and JOINDER if you must. Just trying to locate an upside &#8220;e&#8221; on my &#8220;special character&#8221; chart has exhausted my AM capacities and since it&#8217;s now afternoon, I&#8217;m going back to reading the opinions in the Times, rather than offering you any more of mine.<\/p>\n<p>My opinion: Collusion seems to be a legal thing.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Source: Can We Please Stop Talking About \u2018Collusion\u2019? &#8211; The New York Times Uh, no. 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