{"id":36979,"date":"2018-03-28T16:21:30","date_gmt":"2018-03-28T20:21:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=36979"},"modified":"2018-03-28T16:21:30","modified_gmt":"2018-03-28T20:21:30","slug":"trump-civics-lesson-a-fitness-test-for-the-presidency","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=36979","title":{"rendered":"Trump civics lesson: a fitness test for the presidency?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In response to today&#8217;s new <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2018\/03\/28\/us\/politics\/trump-pardon-michael-flynn-paul-manafort-john-dowd.html?&amp;target=comments&amp;hp&amp;action=click&amp;pgtype=Homepage&amp;modref=HPCommentsRefer&amp;clickSource=story-heading&amp;module=first-column-region&amp;region=top-news&amp;WT.nav=top-news#commentsContainer\">NYT article on how John Dowd, Trump&#8217;s then lawyer, had discussed presidential pardons with the lawyers for Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort,<\/a> Steve Wheeler wrote this comment in the Times, bringing up something else we&#8217;ve grasped thanks to Trump: basically, you mean we have no practical, democratic recourse when the president turns out to be, uh, Trumpian?<\/p>\n<p>Another hole in our political system we need to fill.<\/p>\n<div class=\"UserHeader-userHeader--3_pkZ\">\n<div class=\"UserHeader-primary--1QHu-\">\n<p class=\"UserHeader-title--234hb\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Steve Wheeler<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"UserHeader-subtitle--3RcGZ\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em><span class=\"Comment-subtitle--NzC2q\">Portland, Oregon<a class=\"Comment-subtitleChunk--2AMfq\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2018\/03\/28\/us\/politics\/trump-pardon-michael-flynn-paul-manafort-john-dowd.html?&amp;target=comments&amp;hp&amp;action=click&amp;pgtype=Homepage&amp;modref=HPCommentsRefer&amp;clickSource=story-heading&amp;module=first-column-region&amp;region=top-news&amp;WT.nav=top-news#commentsContainer\"><time class=\"\" aria-label=\"53 minutes ago\">53m ago<\/time><\/a><\/span><\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"Comment-content--t8AqP\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\">\n<p class=\"Comment-commentText--1826c\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Whenever I read an article like this, I am struck by the limited nature of voter recourse concerning holding a sitting president accountable for misdeeds. There is currently a debate about whether a sitting president can be indicted (the consensus seems to be that he can), and now whether a sitting president has any limits on his ability to avoid legal trouble by offering pardons to those who could testify of his misdeeds.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"Comment-commentText--1826c\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>I suppose the Constitutional framers never imagined the election of a thoroughly unsuitable person to the office of president. It seems, as wise as they were, they never foresaw the need to include a fitness test to screen out unfit candidates. I&#8217;m sure they never could conceive that a large percentage of the voters could be so rash as to vote for a candidate who was obviously unfit for the office.<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"Comment-commentText--1826c\" style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><em>Given our limited recourse in swiftly getting rid of an unfit president, I&#8217;d say we need to revisit our Constitution on the matter of a fitness test. Rather than getting rid of a unfit president and all of the time and torturous maneuvering that requires, we should prevent one by imposing a fitness test.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Which should include a mandate that a candidate produce the last ten years of tax filings. Who knew <em>that<\/em> wasn&#8217;t part of the process until now?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In response to today&#8217;s new NYT article on how John Dowd, Trump&#8217;s then lawyer, had discussed presidential pardons with the lawyers for Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort, Steve Wheeler wrote this comment in the Times, bringing up something else we&#8217;ve &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/sidebarforplaintiffs.naomifein.net\/?p=36979\">Continue reading <span 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